Posts Tagged ‘Loiselle’

St-Hyacinthe, QC

November 23, 2009

The village of Saint-Hyacinthe was established in 1849 with a population of 10,200. A year later, it was a town, and by 1857, it was a city.  The first Loiselle-dit-Sinotte was  born there in 1811.
 
Several branches Loiselle dit Sinotte’s settled in Saint-Hyacinthe.
 
The first Loiselle-dit-Sinotte family in St-Hyacinthe, appears to be that of Joseph Loiselle dit Sinotte (son of Joseph Loiselle  and Judith Gosselin) and Josephte Pinsonneault. They were married in St-Marc, QC in 1805.  They had 12 chldren, they had a child born in St-Marc, then St-Charles, then La Presentation and their first child Charles Loiselle-Sinotte was born in St-Hyacinthe, QC in 1811. 
Joseph was known as Joseph Sinotte in the 1852 Census, and they were living with Pierre Sinotte, both Joseph and Pierre were farmers.

Then there is Andre Loiselle-dit-Sinotte, the nephew of Joseph Loiselle above, that came to Saint-Hyacinthe around 1839. Andre Loiselle-dit-Sinotte (son of Jean-Baptiste Loiselle-Sinotte and Marie-Chapdelaine-Beaulac) that married Celeste Roy on Oct 7, 1839.  In 1851 Census the family surname was recorded as “Sinotte”.  I don’t know much about the descendants of this branch and would love to meet more Sinotte’s.

There is a Moise Loiselle that shows in the 1851 Census. He is third cousin to Andre Sinotte above. He doesn’t come to St-Hyacinthe until 1851 and from st-Denis, QC

Both of these families are listed on the 1852 Census which is available online.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SurnameSearch.jsp?surname=sinotte&ew=e&did=31
You can find the 1901 Census for the county of St-Hyacinthe at this link
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/District.jsp?id=190

The 1901 Census lists 47 Loiselle’s in the county of St-Hyacinthe including villiages of St-Hyacinthe-Le-Confesseur, Saint-Damase, Saint-Charles, La Presentation, Notre-Dame-de-St-Hyacinthe,  as well as the city of St-Hyacinthe.

There was one Sinotte family living  in , Benjamin Sinotte and his wife Louise Morin. I wasn’t ablet to find him after the 1901 Census and several of eight of the children that I was able to document, moved to the Unites states so it is possible that he went south as well.

From the 1901 Census link you can also go to the 1911 Census.

I went to visit Saint-Hyacinthe several times on the way to visiting my Aunt and Uncle and cousins in Granby.  And it was my Aunt Raymonde that told me about it and first brought me there. There was such a treasure trove of information there. I spent several days there.

If you are in the neighborhood, check out Centre d’histoire de Saint-Hyacinthe.  Check out the website before you go to confirm the hours.
http://www.chsth.com/

 

Generation 4: Toussaint Loiselle m Marie-Anne Hogue, 1752

September 4, 2009

This was the first generation that Loiselle-dit-Sinotte was used.  “Dit” names are explained here.

Toussaint Loiselle was born 25 Aug 1725, the son of Jean-Baptiste Loiselle and Marie-Anne Beaudry. 

He was the fifth child of 13 children.  His godparents were Pierre Vaudry and Therese Loesel. 

Therese Loesel may be his aunt, his fathers youngest sister, who wasnt married until 1728. Pierre Vaudry may be son of Francois Vaudry and Marie Brouilet.   Pierre Vaudry wasn’t married until 1727 in Pointe-aux-Trembles.  His sister Angelique Vaudrywas wife of Joseph Senet m 1733 in Pointe-aux-Trembles. And it may be their child Joseph Senet that was god father for Toussaint’s youngest son Joseph Loisel-Sinot.

Toussaint moved to St-Charles, QC in 1751, on land that was conceded from his uncle, Jean-Baptiste Beaudry.

He married Marie-Anne Hogue in 1752 in St-Charles, QC. Attending as witnesses at their wedding were  Marie-Anne’s father, Jean-Baptiste Hogue, and her uncle, Francois Hogue.

Together they had 6 children over 9 years in St-Charles.  In March 1770, he bought another piece of property in Beloeil (annexed to St-Marc in 1860) that had cultivated land, a house and farm buildings.  This property is still in the Loiselle family. It was passed down through Toussaint’s oldest son Toussaint.

Toussaint (senior) died in 1772 at the age of 47 in St-Charles, QC after 20 years of marriage when his youngest son Joseph was only 6 years old.  He was buried in St-Charles, QC.  Burial records indicates name TOUSSAINT LOISEL SINOT, age 45.

His wife Marie-Anne Hogue did remarry, but not until 12 years later in 1784 to Amable Benoit and all her six children were married.

The Family of Toussaint Loiselle and Marie-Anne Hogue 

1.  Toussaint5 Loiselle  (Jean-Baptiste4, Joseph3, Louis2 Loisel/Loysel, Louis1) was born 25 Aug 1725 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC, and died 20 Jun 1772 in St. Charles, Rouville Co., QC.  He married Marie-Anne Hogue 24 Jan 1752 in St. Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Hogue and Marie-Marguerite Brassault.  She was born 06 Apr 1735 in Riviere Des Prairies, QC, and died 05 Aug 1806 in St. Marc, QC.

Children of Toussaint Loiselle and Marie-Anne Hogue are:

                 i.    Toussaint6 Loiselle, b. 02 Nov 1752, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; d. Bet. 1799 – 09 Aug 1802, < Beloeil, QC >; m. Marie-Josephte Tetreault, 26 Sep 1774, St. Charles, Rouville Co., QC; b. 12 Feb 1758, St. Charles, QC; d. Bet. 1804 – 1852, QC.

                ii.    Marie-Anne Loiselle, b. 19 Mar 1754, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; d. 06 Mar 1793, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; m. Joseph Marie Janot-Lachapelle, 27 Sep 1773, St. Charles, Rouville Co., QC; b. 25 Nov 1753, St. Charles, QC; d. 16 Jan 1833, St. Marc, QC.

               iii.    Jean-Baptiste Loiselle, b. 23 Aug 1755, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; m. M-Louise Ducharme-Tetreault, 29 Sep 1783, St. Charles-sur-le Richelieu, QC; b. Abt. 1766, QC; d. 16 Jan 1845, St. Marc, QC.

               iv.    Prudent-Marc Loisel-Sinot, b. 24 Apr 1757, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; d. 21 Mar 1826, Marieville, QC; m. Marie-Louise Tetreault, 09 Jul 1776, St. Charles, Rouville Co., QC; b. 24 Aug 1760, St-Charles, St-Hyacinthe, QC; d. 12 Dec 1809, St-Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC.

                v.    Pierre-Toussaint Loiselle, b. 24 Feb 1759, St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC; d. 18 Mar 1824, Saint-Marc-sur-Richelieu, QC; m. Marie-Genevieve Deslandes-Champigny, 26 Jan 1778, St. Antoine sur Richelieu, QC; b. 23 Aug 1760, St. Antoine-Sur-Richelieu, QC; d. 14 Oct 1816, St. Marc, QC.

               vi.    Joseph Loiselle-Sinot, b. 27 Feb 1761, St. Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC; d. 21 Jul 1795, St. Marc-sur-Richelieu, QC; m. Judith Gosselin, 08 Jul 1782, Vercheres, QC; b. Feb 1760, Vercheres, QC; d. Aft. 1800, QC.

Sinotte as a “dit” name of Loiselle

August 21, 2009

One of the difficulties that I had in tracking my Sinotte ancestry was that Sinotte is a “dit” name of Loiselle.

This is what I know so far about Loiselle-dit-Sinotte, in particular.

The Loiselle-Sinotte dit name appears to have been first introduced for Joseph Loiselle born 1761 in St-Charles-sur-Richelieu, he married Judith Gosselin on 8 Jul 1782 in Vercheres, QC and then died 21 Jul 1795 in St-Marc-sur-Richelieu, QC at the age of 34 leaving his wife with a three year old and 11 other children.  One documentation of name was Loizelle-Synode.  There were certainly a lot of Loiselle’s in the communities around St-Hyacinthe – and their first names were all similar, like, Joseph and Jean-Baptiste, so the need to distinguish them would be high, I can imagine. The only reference that I can find as to why Joseph Loiselle may have been referred to as Sinot, might be that his Godfather was Joseph Senet (with Marguerite Lavigne as godmother).  Who knows? We will never know for sure.

I think it was his son Jean-Baptiste Loiselle-Sinotte that was born 6  Nov 1786 in St-Charles sur-Richelieu, QC that had the Sinotte dit name documented in his baptism records

I came across the “dit” name in my research well before I knew was “dit” names were so my early documentation wasn’t accurate enough.  And after the fact, as I try to sort through my research on this topic, I see that didn’t document these records well enough to know which spelling was used when, I need to go back and fix that.  When recording the research, I have learned (hind sight being 20/20!) that it is important to record the misspellings as you find them and that genealogy research should reflect data as you find it, not what you think it should be.  You can put what you think it should be in comments.

And that is what little I know about  Loiselle-dit-Sinotte scenario  – and I will update my learnings once I go back and correct the gaps in my research documentation.  There are other family lines with Loiselle dit Sinotte mentioned, and so, if anyone else has information to add, please let me know.

This is what I know about “dit” names generally.

“Dit”  is translated into English as “say” or “also known as”.

Neither Jette nor Tanguay show “Sinot/Sinotte” as a dit for Loisel, and neither show Sinot/Sinotte AT ALL.  Robert Quintin shows Sinot/Sinode as dit names for Loisel.  Drouin shows the dit name in the left margins throughout his listings.

Unlike the english “alias” there is no negative connotation of the use of a “dit” name. “Dit” names came into being for the purpose of further identification of a person or family.

The choices of the new “dit” names were as infinite as there were names. Here are some general sources of these changes.

a- Occupation / Guild
b- Place of origin
c- Physical description
d- Character description
e- Maternal identification
f- Heroic deed / accomplishment
g- Description of some object
h- Easily pronounced names
i- Seigneurial identification
j- Military

The two surnames can be interchanged at any time. Louis SINOT dit LOISELLE may appear as LOISELLE dit SINOT. Therefore Louis could be baptized Loisel , married as Loiselle dit Sinotte, found in a census as Loiselle  and buried as Sinotte dit Loiselle.

So while the church records make Quebec research easy, if your family has a “dit” name, it can make your genealogy research a little difficult. Whenever you run into any difficulty in tracing from one marriage to the next generation, be sure to check if there are “dit” names for this family. The best place to check is at the end of Volume 7 in Tanquays Dictionaire. The end of the second volume of Jette Dictionaire also has a listing of dit names. You will also find the dit names for each family at the start of that families file in Loiselle microfiche.

Apparently in the mid-1800′s the Quebec Catholic hierarchy directed that all dual-named Quebecois were to delete one of their two surnames. It appears that this occurred over the rest of the century and that most opted to retain their “dit” name and drop their original family name – the order came from the government, not the Church.

Generation 3 : Jean-Baptiste Loiselle married Marie-Anne Beaudry, 1719, in Pointe-aux-Trembles, Quebec

August 19, 2009

Jean-Baptiste Loiselle, born 1692, was son of Joseph Loisel and Jeanne Langlois.  He was one of 12 children, of which there were three brothers that survived to marry and carry on the Loiselle name.

Jean-Baptiste Loiselle married Marie-Anne Beaudry in 1719 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, Quebec. And they had 13 children over 23 years all in Pointe-aux-Trembles.  Six children died as infants.  His wife, Marie-Anne Beaudry died in 1754 in Pointe-aux-Trembles. Jean-Baptiste died in 1767 at age 72 in St Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC.  One of his sons, Toussaint married in St. Charles in 1752.

The Loisel and Beaudry families  had known each other for many years. Marie-Anne Beaudry’s grandfather, Toussaint Beaudry, was a neighbor of Jean-Baptiste’s father Joseph Loisel, when he bought the Francois Bau farm in 1681.  Jean-Baptiste’s brother, Joseph married Marguerite Beaudry, the daughter of Toussaint Beaudry and Barbe Barbier in 1710.  So like many French Canadian early pioneer families, there is a lot of intermingling!

The only other thing that I know about the life of Jean-Baptiste Loiselle, is that he was elected “marguillier” in 1739. And thanks to Doreen Scherer, a descendant of Robert Loisel, I have learned

that a “marguillier” is like a church warden, he helps to run the parish with the priests, usually there are more than one…they take the offering during the service, count the money…… help the sacristain (sort of janitor, this one help with bell ringing, upkeep of the buildings etc),  help with the choir, take the priests to visit the homes….each one has a responsibility and are elected usually by vote after mass by head of household from the parish and it is considered an honor to be chosen.

Le marguillier (du latin matricularis, qui tient un registre) avait, dans chaque paroisse, la charge du registre des personnes qui recevaient les aumônes de l’Eglise. Il servait d’aide au sacristain, nommait et révoquait les chantres, les bedeaux… Ce n’est pas une profession mais une charge.
 And here are the details of his family:
 
Jean-Baptiste4 Loiselle (Joseph3, Louis2 Loisel/Loysel, Louis1) was born 20 Jul 1692 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC, and died 25 Sep 1767 in St. Charles-sur-le-Richelieu, QC. He married Marie-Anne Beaudry 23 Jan 1718/19 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC, daughter of Toussaint Beaudry and Francoise Archambault. She was born 21 Sep 1701 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC, and died 15 Apr 1754 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.Children of Jean-Baptiste Loiselle and Marie-Anne Beaudry are:
 
i. Marie-Anne5 Loiselle, b. 11 Dec 1719, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. Aft. 1754, < Repentigny, QC >; m. Jean-Baptiste Gervais, 12 Oct 1739, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC (L’Enfant-Jesus); b. 27 Jun 1715, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. Aft. 1754, < Repentigny, QC >.
 
ii. Jean-Baptiste Loiselle, b. 27 Aug 1721, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 06 Jun 1788, St-Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC; m. Apolline Desbled-Pariseau, 10 Feb 1748/49, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. 24 Sep 1727, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 28 Jun 1797, St. Marc-sur-Richelieu, QC.
 
iii. Marie-Josephte Loiselle, b. 24 Jul 1723, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 30 Apr 1759, Repentigny, QC; m. Francois Thouin-Germain, 18 Feb 1742/43, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. 23 Sep 1717, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.
 
iv. Toussaint Loiselle, b. 25 Aug 1725, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 20 Jun 1772, St. Charles, Rouville Co., QC; m. Marie-Anne Hogue, 24 Jan 1752, St. Charles-sur-Richelieu, QC; b. 06 Apr 1735, Riviere Des Prairies, QC; d. 05 Aug 1806, St. Marc, QC.

v. Marie-Judith Loiselle, b. 04 Nov 1727, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 06 Apr 1761, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; m. Charles Fissiau-Laramee, 13 Nov 1752, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. 07 Oct 1728, Longue Pte, , QC; d. Aft. 1763, QC.

vi. Marguerite Loiselle, b. 05 Dec 1729, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 06 Jan 1762, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; m. Jean-Baptiste Desroches, 27 Jan 1755, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. 23 Apr 1724, Pointe Aux Trembles, Montreal, QC; d. 25 Apr 1798, Riviere des Prairies, QC.

vii. Joseph Loisel, b. 21 Aug 1731, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 01 Sep 1731, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

viii. Angelique Loisel, b. 08 Jan 1733/34, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

ix. Marie-Therese Loisel, b. 08 Jan 1733/34, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 10 Jun 1734, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

x. Joseph Loisel, b. 26 Jun 1735, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 05 Mar 1761, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

xi. Amable Loiselle, b. 08 Jun 1738, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 16 Jun 1738, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

xii. Amable Loiselle, b. 23 Mar 1741/42, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; d. 06 Apr 1742, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

 

 

 

References:

  • Dict. Jette, Vol.2,p.740;
  • Dict. Tanguay Vol.2,p.151;
  • DNCF,p.867;
  • PRDH, Vol.24,25,38;
  • Genealogie des Principaux Familles de Richelieu, Bibliotheque Gabriel Roy, Qc

Generation 1 – Louis Loisel married Marguerite Charlot, 1647

August 10, 2009

The first Loiselle in Canada …. 

Jacques Cartier was the first European in Montreal (then the village of Hochelega) in 1534. Samuel de Champlain tried to establish a fur trading post there in 1604 but was unsuccessful. Then the mission Ville Marie was built in 1642 and became the centre for the fur trade and French expansion into New France.

Under the authority of the Roman Catholic Société Notre-Dame, missionaries Paul Chomedey de Maisonneuve, Jeanne Mance and a few French colonists set up a mission named Ville Marie on May 17, 1642 as part of a project to create a colony dedicated to the Virgin Mary. In 1644, Jeanne Mance founded the Hôtel-Dieu, the first hospital in North America, north of Mexico.

My Sinotte family is descendant of Louis Loisel.  Sinotte is a “dit” name of the surname Loiselle.

Louis Loisel came to Canada in 1647. He married Marguerite Charlot and they had eight children.

This is the Loisel  family crest.

According to Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors : Volume XVIII, Pages 147-148

“In history, Louis Loisel appeared at Ville-Marie without prior notice. We meet him for the first time in the religious registries on Monday, 13 January 1648. He was at the church of Notre-Dame to have his marriage to the parisienne Marguerite Charlot blessed. Present at the ceremony were Paul de Chomedey, Sieur de Maisonneuve, Governor of the island, Gilbert Barbier and Charles Lemoine. The officiating priest was none other than the Jesuilt preist Georges D’Endremare, known as a missionary at Sainte-Anne du Cap-Breton since the year 1636.”

From L’Heritage Loiselle, pg 28:

Marguerite etait une fille vertueuse qui accompagnait Mademoiselle Mances a Ville-Marie; elle avait vecu sous les soins de cette derniere jusqu’au jour de son marriage.

Their marriage is found at Notre-Dame de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec in Drouin Collection. The French translation of their marriage document from Drouin records:

En ‘an du Seigneur 1648, en ce treiziene jour de janvier, les bas ayant ete promulgues a trois jours de fete durant la celebration de la messe paroissiale, et aucun empechement legitime n’etant decouvert, moi George d’ Eudemare, prete de la Societe de Jesus, entre Louis Loisel, fils de Louis Loisel, et de Jeanne LeTerrier, ses parents de la paroisse Saint-Germain pres de Caen en Normandie , et Marguerite Charlot fille de Francois Charlot et de Barbe Girardeau, ses parent de la paroisse Saint-Jean-en-Greve, Paris. En la Maison de la Bienheureuse Marie du Mont-Royal en Nouvelle-France, les interrogeant, et ayant obtenu leur mutuel consentement, je les ai unis par le mariage de facon solennelle par des paroles devant les temoins connus dont le Seigneur Paul de Chomedey de Maisonneuve, gouverneur de lieu, Gilbert Barbier, nivernois, Charles le Moyne, interprete de langues et plusieurs autres, ensuite je les ai benis selon le rite de notre mere la sainte Eglise lors d’une messe celebree.

The wedding was held at the house of Mademoiselle Mance “The Bienheuruse Maries du Mont Royal”. Attending the wedding were the most influential of the colony at the time:

Paul de Chomedey was the governor of Montreal.
Gilbert Barbier was responsble for the construction of the fort around Montreal
Charles le Moyne was the future seigneur of Longueuil.

By 1650, when Father Claude Pijart (who baptisted two of their children) arrived in Montreal, the settlement was in a lamentable state. There were fewer than a hundred French people there and they were all billeted behind the palisades. Father Pijart was in Montreal (his resident, liturgy and the cemetery at the Hôtel-Dieu) until Father De Queylus arrived in 1657.

Paul Chomedey de Maisonneuve would act as governor of the colony. On January 4, 1648, he granted Pierre Gadois  the first concession of land of 40 acres. Others including Charles Lauzon, Robert Lecavelier et Adrienne Duvivier, Jean Desroches, Urbain Tessier dit Lavgne and Jacques Archambault.   A map of the early land grants are provided here.  My Louis Loisel got his first land grant in 1655.

Between 1650 and 1672, 94 houses were built in Montreal. Louis Loisel’s house was on Rue Saint-Paul, #51 on  map of Montreal on 1672. He earned his living as a locks smith.

In 1666 census,  Louis Loisel was listed with his family. His surname is spelled Loysel.

Louis Loysel 49 Habitant
Marguerite Charlot 35 Epouse
Jeanne Loysel 16 Fille
Francoise Loysel 14 Fille
Joseph Loysel 12 Fils
Barbe Loysel 2 Fille

In the 1666 Census in Montreal, Honore Langlois with his family including Jeanne Langlois are also listed two families before Louis Loysel. Jeanne Langlois is to become the wife of Joseph Loysel.

In 1679 there is a record of a dispute that Louis Loisel was having with one of his neighbors which Rob Louisell found posted here.

February 21, 1679 – Between Louis Loisel, plaintiff on the one part, for the return of a cord of wood, against Robert Le Cavallier on the other part, judgment is rendered in favor of the plaintiff.  

 

 

In the Montreal census of 1681, Louis Loisel, locksmith, 64 years old, and Marguerite Charlot, 57 years old, had as neighbors Jean-Vincent Philippe, Sieur de Hautmesny, and Charles d’Ailleboust, Sieur des Mousseaux. Louis and Marguerite owned 1 gun, 2 head of cattle, and had 30 arpents under cultivation. A single son, Joseph, still lived with them.

Honore Langlois and his growing family were still neighbors of the Loisel’s in 1681 census. Jeanne Langlois is listed as their oldest daughter living at home, age 19. Jeanne Langlois is to become the wife of Joseph Loisel.

Dec 9, 1681, their son, Joseph Loisel, bought land in Saint-Jean (later Pointe-aux-Trembles) from Francois Bau and his wife. Does that make Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot empty nesters now?

On 26 May 1682, Paul Aguenier was ordered to pay the damages that his animals had caused to the grains of Louis Loisel

8 August 1684, the Loisel won his case against Marthe Autreux, wife of Pierre Chauvin, who had killed one of the plaintiff’s pigs after having surprised the animal in the act of ransacking his fields

18 June 1686, Loisel was ordered to do so because he had refused to ‘have thrashed les fredoches, which spoiled a homestead”.

On 2 August 1688, Louis Loisel (engageur ouest), Antoine Bazinet dit Tourblance, Jacques Chaperon, Pierre Janot dit LaChapelle and his older brother Robert, decided to take the risk of organizing a trading journey to the West [Kaskaskia area]. They went to the merchant Francois Poignet dit Beauregard in order to buy 1,778 livres 13 sols in trade goods. The partners guaranteed the load. Bazinet, Chaperon and Janot would make the trading journey and return in the autumn of 1689 in order to pay the creditors in good beaver pelts and to share the profits.

Not sure if this group on Engageur ouest made their fortune or not. [although this seems unlikely because Louis Loisel was in his 70s at the time.] 

Later in 1691, Joseph, Louis Loisel’s son, went on a trading trip out west, and in 1708, his daughter Barbe moved with her husband of the time to Kaskaskia. [And future Loisel generations were later follow to Kaskaskia].

3 March 1690, ancestor Louis Loisel liquidated all his property in Montreal: the site of Rue Saint-Paul with house built on it and his farm, to Nicolas Dantour who withdrew immediately in favor of edgetool maker Jean Drapeau dit LaForge. The latter changed his mind reckoning that he could not pay off such a debt of 1,400 livres,. Louis then offered the fur merchants Charles de Couagne and Jean Cuillerier the opportunity to sign the same purchase, but for only 1,100 livres to be paid in three payments, the last being on 3 March 1693. The agreement became effective on 2 August 1690.

In Mar 1690, after liquidated all his property, his daughter Barbe Loisel and her husband Francois Langantier, took charge of supporting of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot. Louis Loisel died in Sep 1691.  Likely when Barbe Loisel went to Detroit MI area, Marguerite went to live with her son Joseph Loiselle in Pointe-aux-Trembles.

4 Sep 1691,  Louis Loisel died as recorded in Drouin collections from Notre-Dame de Montreal burial records.

According to Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors : Volume XVIII, Page 153)

“At the end of the summer of 1691, death took the life of Louis Loisel. On Tuesday, 4 September, his mortal remains were laid to rest, after the libera sung by the Sulpicien priest Etienne Guyotte.” 

Oct 3, 1706 – Margureite Charlot dies – survived her husband by more than 15 years. Her funeral was celebrated at Pointe-aux-Trembles on October 3, 1706, in the presence of her son Joseph, her daughter -in-law Jeanne Langlois, the notary Nicolas Senet dit Laliberte, the cantor Louis Beaudry and the officiating Priest Benoit Roche from Saint-Sulpice.

Only one son survived to carry on the Loisel name, that was Joseph Loiselle.

The Family of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot:

Louis2 Loisel/Loysel  (son of Louis Loisel and Jeanne LeTerrier) was born 1618 in Saint-Germain-la-Blance-Herbe, de Caen (Bayeux), Normandie, France, and died 04 Sep 1691 in Montreal, QC.  He married Marie-Marguerite Charlot 13 Jan 1647/48 in Montreal, QC (Notre Dame), daughter of Francois Charlot and Barbe Girardeau.  She was born 1612 in Saint-Jean-en-Greve, Paris, France, and died 03 Oct 1706 in Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

Children of Louis Loisel/Loysel and Marie-Marguerite Charlot are:

                 i.    Marie-Jeanne3 Loiselle, b. 24 Jul 1649, Montréal, Île de Montréal,QC; d. 04 Oct 1708, Montreal, QC; m. (1) Julien Averty, Bef. 1666, Montreal, QC; b. Bef. 1649, < QC >; d. Bef. 1666, < QC >; m. (2) Jean Beauchamp-LePetit, 23 Nov 1666, Rivière-des-Prairies, Montreal, QC; b. 08 May 1644, Ste-Marguerite, La Rochelle, Aunis, France; d. 04 May 1700, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.   Marguerite Bourgeoys would found the Congrégation de Notre-Dame, Montreal’s first school, in 1653.  Jeanne Loisel, Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot’s oldest daughter, was the first non-native child born in Canada to survive to marry in adult hood, she also because the first non-native child to attend Marguerite Bourgeoys’ school.

                ii.    Francoise Loiselle, b. 26 Feb 1651/52, Montreal, QC; d. 13 Sep 1690, Boucherville, QC; m. (1) Francois Pilet, 27 Dec 1670, Boucherville, QC; b. 1630, St-Hilaire-de-Pouillac, Saintonge, France; d. 08 Sep 1688, Boucherville, QC; m. (2) Charles Chevaye-Vendamois, 16 Aug 1689, Boucherville, QC; b. Oct 1660, Ste-Marie-Madeleine de Vendôme,Île-de-France, France. Francoise was also a student of Marguerite Bourgeoys.

               iii.    Joseph Loiselle, b. 25 Nov 1654, Montreal, QC; d. 09 Jun 1724, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; m. Jeanne Langlois-Duchene, 07 Apr 1682, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. 16 Jan 1663/64, Montreal, QC; d. 23 Feb 1718/19, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC.

               iv.    Charles Loiselle, b. 02 Jun 1658, Montreal, QC; d. 28 Jun 1658, Montreal, QC.

                v.    Marie-Marthe Loiselle, b. 15 Aug 1659, Montreal, QC; d. 15 Aug 1659, Montreal, QC.

               vi.    Charles Loiselle, b. 05 Oct 1661, Montreal, QC; d. 06 Nov 1661, Montreal, QC.

              vii.    Barbe Marie Loiselle, b. 30 Aug 1663, Montreal, QC; d. 24 Dec 1742, Hopital General de Quebec, QC; m. (1) Jean Miquelly, 25 Sep 1688, Pointe-aux-Trembles, QC; b. Abt. 1660; d. Bef. 1689; m. (2) Pierre Roussel, 26 Oct 1676, Montreal, QC; b. 1644, Dieppe, France; d. 25 Apr 1687, Montreal, QC; m. (3) Francois LeGantier, 28 Nov 1689, Montreal, QC (Notre Dame des Neiges); b. Bef. 1663, LaChartre-sur-le-Loir, Maine, France; d. 11 Nov 1710, Ste-Anne-de-Detroit, IL; m. (4) Francois Fafard-Delorme, 30 Dec 1713, Sainte-Anne-de-Détroit (Fort Ponchartrain), Detroit, MI; b. 1660, Trois Rivieres, St. Maurice, QC; d. 28 Jan 1733/34, Detroit, Wayne Co., MI.

             viii.    Louis Loiselle, b. 14 Aug 1667, Montreal, QC; d. 04 Sep 1667, Montreal, QC.

Surname variations include Loisel Loiselle Sinotte Wisell and Venet

August 1, 2009

Updated as at Oct 2013:

My French Canadian genealogy research focuses around the surname Loisel. I am trying to identify all the current day descendants of my ancester Louis Loisel.

The challenge came up when I discovered that there were 4 or 5 different “Loisel” that settled in Canada in those early years – well the 1600 and 1700’s. To try to sort out who was related or not, I started documenting the descendants of all of these “original Loisel” ancesters.
And so, after almost 30 years of keeping an eye out for new descendants of Louis Loisel, my research file has
- 41,010  individuals
- 15,047 marriages
- 7016  different surnames

The longest Loisel/Sinotte branch of the family tree goes back 19 generations.

According to OUR FRENCH-CANADIAN ANCESTORS, by Thomas J. Laforest, the surname LOISEL has the following variations: CHOISY, CLOISEL, LOISEAU, LOISELET, LOISELLE, LORSIL, LOYSEL, SINODE, SINOT, VENET AND VINET. LOISELLE is also CAMPBELL, LISOTTE, LOISEL, LOISELL, LOIZEL, and WISELL.

[I have not yet come across any Louis Loisel descendants with the Cloisel, Choisy, Loiseau, Loiselet, Lorsil, Lisotte or Cambell connections]

In my own research, I have come across these spelling variations: Loisel, Loiselle, Loyselle, Loyzelle, Sinot, Sinotte, Sinnett, Synott, Louiselle, Louisell, and Wisell. I also have Venet, but they are definately not related to my Louis Loisel ancester.

…  in Jan 2011, thanks to connecting with a “cousin” Elizabeth Davis have confirmed that there are some Wiswell and Sinnett’s in the Loiselle dit Sinotte family tree!  See her notes here.  And you can check out all her research on Ancestry.com.

… in Jun 2012, found records that verified that the surname deLoiselle is also a “dit” Sinotte variation, although haven’t “met” any deLoiselle cousins year.

… in Jul 2013, Angela Rupert has confirmed the Synott connection!

… in Oct 2013, I am pretty sure that there is a Sinette family in Chippewa WI area since 1880s that are descendants of Louis Loisel, by way of Vermont and some of the Loiselle’s that stayed in Vermont, became known by the surname Sinot and Sinor.

 

Here are a few examples of the variations of the Loisel name that I know of.

My surname Sinotte was introduced as a “dit name” for Loiselle at about 1752 – at the 3rd generation descendant of Louis Loisel. In 1752, Toussaint Loiselle-Sinot was born to Toussant Loiselle and Marie Anne Hogue and baptised as dit Sinot.  The father Toussaint Loiselle was buried in 1772 as Tousaint Loisel Sinot.   The youngest son of Toussaint Loiselle and Marie-Anne Hougue was also also baptised dit Loiselle.  Joseph Loiselle-Sinot and his wife Judith Gosselin who were married in 1782 in Vercheres Quebec and at about the time that they moved to St-Dominique, QC, were there are records that referred to him as Joseph Loizelle-Synode.

There are a few examples of the Wisell surname.

Wisell was introduced one branch of the Louis Loisel family tree in the 5th generation descendants. Specifically it was the family of Pierre Loiselle and Marie Demers who were married in 1814 and moved with their growing family to Vermont USA – and by1850 he and several of his 16 children were documented in census, marriage and birth documnets with surname “Wisell”. When you say “Loiselle” in english, is does sound like “Wisell”.

It also appears about the same time, when Constant Loiselle who married Marie-Catherine Marsil in 1828 in Marieville, QC. Constant Loiselle was 6th generation descendant of “my Louis Loisel”. Constant Loiselle and Marie-Catherine Marsil immigrated to Michigan USA and at least as early as 1840, in documentation Constant Loiselle was also known as Constant Loiselle/John Loiselle/John Wisell/John Wezell.

Venet surname is fron Rene Venet who came to Canada about 1750 and Venet dit Loisel being introduced in Rene Venet’s 2nd/3rd generation descendants.

I look forward to sharing more in future posts. And I look forward to meeting more Loisel/Sinotte descendants? Are you related?

How I got Started

August 1, 2009

It was maybe back in 1990 that that I started researching my family tree. I was looking for my Canadian identity. Back then I didn’t know it … but now I know that I am 13th generation french canadian and 5th generation Ukrainian Canadian. You can’t get any more “Canadian” than that.

It probably took me 10 years to figure out that Sinotte was a “dit” name for Loiselle and that that made me at 13 generation descendant of Louis Loisel who arrived in Montreal in Aug 1647, was a locksmith by trade and he married Marguerite Charlot on 13 January 1648 at Notre Dame in Montreal. The community in Montreal at that time was quite small. Attending their wedding were Seigneur Paul de Domedey de Maissonneuve (see biography), Gilbert Barbier, Charles le Moyne. The wedding was at the house of “la Bienheureuse Marie du Mont-Royal”. (Jeanne Mance). This began the Loisel Canadian family tree.

I look forward to sharing my genealogy journey and stories of the Loiselle and Sinotte “cousins” that I have met along the way. I look forward to meeting many more.


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