Generation 6: Prudent Loiselle-Sinot and his Children

July 22, 2013

The children of Prudent Loiselle migrate to Chile, Dakota’s and various points of New England …

 Aurora Loiselle 7th great granddaughter of Louis Loisel.png Prudent Loiselle-Sinot is 6th Generation of Loisel’s in Canada, descendant of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot.

Aurora Loiselle is great granddaughter of Moise Loiselle, and 10th generation descendant of Louis Loisel.

Aurora has a great collection of letters exchanged by Veronique Poulet and the children of Prudent Loiselle as the family was separated by the distance places that their lives took them. Aurora had copies of many of these photos and letters for display at the Louis Loisel descendants meeting in Jun 2013. A copy of a presentation that she created is attached here. Moyse Loiselle by Aurora Loiselle

 

Prudent Loiselle-Sinot was born Jan 22, 1797 in Beloeil Quebec. In his baptism certificate, his name was written at Prudent Sinode, his parents and godparents were listed as “Toussaint Sinode laboureur et de Josette Tetro…Le parain a ete Prudent Sinode et la marain Marie Anne Tetro”

Prudent was married twice and had a total of sixteen children. Click on the Family Chart below to see his children:

Prudent Loiselle Sinot Family chart

Prudent Loiselle Sinot Family

Prudent married first to Julie Tetreau on February 17, 1817.

February 17, 1817: Marriage de Prudent Loisel f. mn. feu Toussaint & Josephte Tetreau (S. Marc) et Julie Tetreau f. mn. Augustin et feu Cecile Tetreau (S. Marc); Dispense du 4e au 4e degree consanguinite. Tem. Antoine Guyon: beau-pere de l’epoux, Toussaint & Amable Loisel: freres de l’epoux; Edouard Tetreau: frere de l’epouse. (Xource: Transcript of Register of Paroisse St.-Marc-sur-Richelieu, Co. Vercheres, Quebec; LDS film # 1293424)

They were 3rd cousins!

Relationship Prudent Loiselle Sinot to Julie Tetreault Ducharme

Julia Tetreau died in childbirth in 1831 leaving behind 8 living children.  Prudent remarried to Veronique Poulet in 1833.

Prudent’s children ended up spreading across North America

  • Moise Loiselle b 1819 went to Fort Vancouver in 1856 working as a baker with with the Sisters of the Providence and arrived in Valparaiso, Chile in January 1859
  • Marguerite Loiselle b 1822 maried Isadore Jodoin in St Marc in 1846. They migrated to Manchester, New Hampshire.
  • Mathias Loiselle b 1824 married Vitaline Provost in St Marc in 1848. They migrated to Bottineau, North Dakota
  • Abraham Loiselle b 1826 married Adele Charron in 1847 in St-Charles-sur-Richelieu and then remarried Elmire Lapierre in 1873 in St-Hyacinthe, QC. He was for a time in Lowell MA (1883) and died in 1909 in New Hampshire.
  • Odile Loiselel b 1828 married Marc Chicoine in St Marc in 1851.  They migrated to Sioux City Iowa on way to Jefferson South Dakota.
  • Prudent Loiselle b 1838 maried Philomene Jodouin in 1860 in St-Antoine-sur-Richelieu. They migrated to Killingly, Connecticut

Abraham Loiselle and Adele Charron 1880

Abraham Loiselle and Odile Charron

Marc Chicoine and Odile Loiselle

Odile Loiselle and Marc Chicoine, 1881

    Joseph Trudel and Mathilde Loiselle 1889

Mathilde Loiselle and Joseph Trudel, 1889

Marguerite Loiselle in Manchester NH

Marguerite Loiselle married Isadore Jodoin

And perhaps there are other Prudent Loiselle descendants out there that have other letters and photos shared between the siblings as they were separated by distance.

Some Synott and Sinnett Cousins (How we are connected Part III)

July 17, 2013

In a previous post, we talked a little bit about “dit” names. There are a number of “dit” names used amongst descendants of Louis Loisel. This includes the surname spelling Sinotte, Synott and Sinnett.  The various versions of Loisel dit names are introduced here.

While the Synott and Sinnett surnames are most often “Irish”, we have confirmed most definately that there are indeed some Synott and Sinnett cousins.

From the “How we are Related Part III” chart provided below you can see that both Angela Rupert (of the Sinnett line) and Elizeth Davis (of Sinnett line) are Karen Sinotte’s 6th cousin once removed … and you can likely calculate how you too are related to these Cousins!

From the “How we are related Park III, you can see Elizabeth Davis, Angela Rupert and Pamela LaGrandeur share a common ancester in Joseph Loiselle-Sinotte (b. 1783) and Marie Josephte Pinsonneault  (married in St Marc) .  Making Elizabeth, Angela and Pamela 5th cousins 1x removed.

  • Pamela LaGrandeur is descendant of their son Joseph Loiselle-Sinotte b. 1807 in St Charles.  Pamela  is 12th generation in North America, 4th generation American. Her gg grandfather Augustus Synott migrated from St-Barnabe QC to Grafton MA about 1879 and then to Waterbury CT by 1889.  Why did Augustus Synottt to Waterbury CT while his brother’s descendants ended up in New York State?

In this chart “How we are Related III”, you can see that Angela (nee Dickerson) Rupert and Elizabeth Davis share a common ancester in Charles Loisel-dit-Sinott b. 1815 who married Isabelle Plante in 1841 in Saint-Hugues QC and ended up in New York State by 1850s.  That would make Elizabeth and Angela 5th cousins!

The Relationship Charts

How we are related Part IRelationship chart for Louis Loisel descendants that attended our meeting on June 29, 2013 How we are related Part IIIThis shows our relationship to the Sinnett’s and the Synott’s
Montreal Meeting How we are all related Jun 29 2013Click here for PDF Version of Part I How we are Related: Loisel History for Meeting in Montreal Jun 29 2013 How we are related Chart How we are related Part III Synott and SinnettClick here for PDF version of Part III of How We are Related:  How we are related Part III Synott and Sinnett

From the chart you can see that Elizabeth is descendant of their daughter Rose Sinnett.

  • Elizabeth Davis is expecting a new Loisel descendant in August so was unable to attend the Loisel family reunion this year. She is connected to the Loisel family tree through John Fields (Beauchamp) that married Rose Sinnett (sometimes recorded as Wiswell) in Mariah NY.  Rose Sinnett is 9th Generation descendant of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot.  When this branch of the family migrated to New York State, their names were recorded in a number of different ways finally continuing on as Sinnett.
  • Elizabeth is actually “cousin” multiple times over because John Fields is a  descendant of Jean Beauchamps  that married Jeanne Loisel, Jeanne Loisel was daughter of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot!

Angela is descendant of their son, Joseph Loiselle-Sinotte, and several siblings, and their descendants ended up in Seattle WA.

  • Angela and her family live in PA now. Her sons have been on the lookout for their Canadian roots. While they weren’t able to make it to the Sinotte-Loiselle family gathering in Montreal last month, in the Summer 2012, they made their own pilgrimage to Montreal and had their own chance to explore Old Montreal.
  • Angela’s sons are 9th Generation Americans and 14th generation descendants of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot!
Angela Rupert and Family 2013 Allan Rupert and sons in Montreal on rue St Paul 2012
Angela Rupert and Family 2013.

Allan, Austin and Allan in Old Montreal in Summer 2012.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful to learn about why Charles Loiselle-Sinnett choose to go to New York and how some of his children ended up making the trek out West. And why Augustin Synott ended up in Waterbury CT!

And how many more Sinnett and Synott cousins are there out there!

Instructions on how to read this chart are provided in previous post. All this is just provided for “fun”. If there are any errors … oops! You can let me know of any alternative points of view, and we can work together to resolve any information.

Tom Loiselle, one of our musical “cousins”

July 17, 2013

Tom Loiselle came up to join our Sinotte Loiselle Wisell gathering in Montreal on Jun 29, 2013.  He came with his wife, Paula and son, Christopher, from Rhode Island.

Christopher Paula and Tom Loiselle

Lunch at the Serafim was a great choice because they let us really “take over” the space. This allowed some of the Loiselle talent to entertain us.

Tom Loiselle entertained the group with some of his own music.

Tom Loiselle the musician

Here are the lyrics to one of the songs that he performed.

Stay with me for Awhile
© 2011, Thomas E. Loiselle. All  rights reserved.
Intro (Verse Progression)  (1x)
Verse 1
I can see the light in your eyes  when you smile it makes me happy
I can hear the sound of your voice  when you laugh it makes me happy
And when you touch my hand then I  understand you love me
And when I hold you close then you  understand I love you
Verse 2
I can feel the beating of your heart when we are lying here together
I can stare at you when I’m awake  admiring your beauty
When I caress your face and look  into your eyes you look so lovely
When you look at me and see the  love I have for you it makes you happy
Chorus 1
Won’t you stay with me for  awhile?
Won’t you play with me and make me  smile?
Won’t you stay with me for  awhile…? La, da, da, da, da, da…
Solo
Verse 3
You can see the light in my eyes  when I smile it makes you happy
You can hear the sound of my voice  when I laugh it makes you happy
And when I touch your hand then  you understand I love you
And when you hold me close then I  understand you love me
Chorus 2
Won’t you stay with me for  awhile?
Won’t you play with me and make me  smile?
Won’t you stay with me for  awhile…? La, da, da, da, da, da…
Ending
And here is how Tom, Paula and Chris are connected to Louis Loisel who came to Canada in 1647.
Christopher Loiselle son of Tom and Paula is 12th generation 12. Chris Loiselle is the 12th generation descendant of Louis Loisel and 5th generation of Loiselle’s in Central Falls.
11. His father Thomas Loiselle married Paula and they have three sons.
10. His Father Jean-Paul Loiselle
9. His Father is Adrien Loiselle
8. His father Pierre Loiselle  was born in Farnham Quebec. He and his wife Zenaide Robert immigrated to Central Falls sometime between 1906 and 1910 with 10 children.
7. His parents, Toussaint Loiselle-Sinotte and Luce Viens moved from Marieville to Farnham and had 9 children.
6. His parents Toussaint Loiselle and Apoline Letourneau moved from St Charles to Marieville, they had 17 children.  After Apoline died, Toussaint Loiselle-Sinotte remarred to Marguerite Timineur and had another 3 children.
5. His parents Pierre-Toussaint Loiselle married Genevieve Deslandes. Pierre was born in St Charles, married in St Antoine. His wife Genevieve died in St Marc.
4. His parents Toussaint Loiselle married Marie-Anne Hogue. While Toussaint Loiselle was born in Pointe-aux-Trembles, he moved to St-Charles in 1751 on land that was ceded from his uncle, Jean-Baptiste Beaudry. He married in 1752 and raised his family in St-Charles and died in St Marc.
3. His parents were Jean-Baptiste Loiselle and Marie-Anne Beaudry.
2. His parents were Joseph Loiselle and Jeanne Langlois
1. His parents were Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot.

Notes from Loiselle Sinotte Wisell family gathering in Montreal on Jun 29, 2013

July 16, 2013

It was great meeting of Loiselle, Sinotte and Wisell family gathering in Montreal on Jun 29, 2013.  We were able to stick to the original agenda quite well.   Some of us have been to Old Montreal alot, for others this was our first visit to Old Montreal.  But how cool was it to walk the steps of our first Canadian Ancesters …. with cousins coming from Ontario, Saskatchewan, Rhode Island and even as far as Chile and back again to our roots.

We are slowly gathering all the notes from the meeting … and collecting some of the memorabilia from the different branches.  Stay tuned for more updates in the coming weeks.

                                                                     Sinotte Loiselle group
The photo was taken in the Chapelle Bonsecours, Jun 29, 2013 In the photo are (from left to right): Our “coureur de bois” guide, Fern Sinotte and Glenda Harris, Aurora Loiselle, Tom his son Chris Loiselle, Henri Loiselle, Andree Sinotte, Karen Sinotte, Mona Sinotte, Raymonde Sinotte and her beau Norman.  Missing from the photo are Paula, Bruce, Marcelo who were taking photos!

And here are the notes that have been collected so far!

A Road trip to Pointe-aux-Trembles Photos to follow
The day started out at Chateau Ramezay
Aurora presented on Montreal and New England Historical  Context Click here for her notes.The Early Establishment of Montreal Loiselle Pioneer Family.

Click here for more on Early History of Montreal

Karen presented on EARLY common Ancestry, How We are Connected   and Loiselle Diaspora Click here for a Copy of Karen’s Presentation Notes (Updated a little bit from the original presentation): Loisel History for Meeting in Montreal Jun 29 2013 Final Version.And for additional notes on the topics in the presentation have been posted to the blog:

 

Tom gave us background on Loisel Coat of Arms Notes to follow
Round Table sharing family stories
  • Aurora Loiselle is great granddaughter of  Moise Loiselle, who immigrated to Chile in mid 1800s. Aurora has a great collection of letters from Moise’s siblings and had copies of many of these photos and letters for display at the Louis Loisel descendants meeting in Jun 2013. A copy of a presentation that she created is attached here. Moyse Loiselle by Aurora Loiselle

Other Notes to follow

Tour of Chapelle Bonsecours  and Marguerite Bourgeoys Museum

  •   Group Photo with Family Crest
Photos to follow
Lunch at Serafim, with Entertainment by Loiselle Cousins Tom Loiselle is one of our cousins that entertained the group over lunch … all the way from Rhode Island!More Photos to follw.
Tour of Notre Dame Basilica Photos to follow
Dinner at Restaurant Fourquet Fourchette Photos to follow

More Loiselle Cousins!

July 9, 2013

Descendants of Louis Loisel can probably calculate a relationship with most any descendant of the first settlers of Quebec and specifically Montreal.

In my efforts to connect Loiselle cousins, two most common questions that I am asked from Loiselle cousins include:

  • How  are they related to Angelina Jolie (most commonly asked by the “guys”)
  • How are they related to Pierre Trudeau

So, to calculate relationship to anyone, you just have to find your common ancesters, and then start counting generations between you and the first cousins of that common ancestor.  So a “Loiselle’ cousin would calculate your relationship to Angelina Jolie or Pierre Trudeau in the same way.

Taking myself as an example of a Loiselle cousins, our Relationship to Angelina Jolie:

  • Angelina Jolie is ninth cousin 1x removed to Karen Sinotte through common ancesters Joseph Loiselle and Jeanne Langlois.  Angelina Jolie is descendant of their daughter Angelique Loiselle that married Nicoholas Chaput. Karen Sinotte is descendant of Jean Baptiste Loiselle that married Marie Anne Beaudry.
  • Angelina Jolie is also ninth cousin 1x removed to Karen Sinotte through common ancestors Toussaint Beaudry and Francoise Archambault.   Angeline Jolie is descendant of their son Pierre Beaudry. Karen Sinotte is decendant of their daughter Marie Anne Beaudry who married Jean-Baptiste Loiselle in 1719.

Our Relationship to Pierre Trudeau:

  • Pierre Elliot Trudau is 8th cousin 3 x removed cousin to Karen Sinotte through common ancesters Gilbert Barbier and Catherine Delavaux.  Their daughter Barbe Barbier married Toussaint Beaudry, who had a son Toussaint Beaudry who married Francoise Archambault, and their daughter Marie-Anne Beaudry married Karen Sinotte’s ancestor Jean-Baptiste Loiselle, who was son of Joseph Loiselle and Jeanne Langlois.

I have shown these relationshops on the chart below:   HOW WE ARE RELATED PART II below.

If you overlay this chart with the previous chart HOW WE ARE RELATED PART I chart  provided, and any Loiselle Cousins can calcualte their relationsip to Pierre Trudeau and Angelina Jolie.

On the HOW WE ARE RELATED PART II, I have also included another Loiselle cousin, Mitch Loiselle:

  • Our American Loiselle cousin Mitch has been connecting with his Canadian Roots. It turns out that he is descendant of Rene Venet who came to Canada almost 100 years after our Louis Loisel.  But Mitch is connected to the Louis Loisel family tree through marriage with Trudeau’s! Our common ancestors are also Gilbert Barbier and Catherine Delavaux. Mitch is descendant of their daughter Adrienne Barbier who married Etienne Pierre Trudeau. Their descendant  Laura Trudeau married Mitch’s grandfather Harvey Loiselle.
  • [NOTE: Mitch isn't "famous" so don't try to find him on wikipedia or anything. I just didn't have a chance to including him on the PART I chart previously and he very conveniently fits in on this chart! ]

 

 How we are related Part I

This shows the relationship to a number of Louis Loisel descendants that attended or had hoped to attend our meeting on June 29, 2013

 How we are related Part II

This shows the relationship to Pierre Trudeau, Angelina Jolie and Mitch Loiselle

Montreal Meeting How we are all related Jun 29 2013Click here for PDF Version of Part I How we are Related: Loisel History for Meeting in Montreal Jun 29 2013 How we are related Chart Our Connection to Angelina Jolie and Pierre TrudeauClick here for PDF version of Part II of How We are Related:  Our Connection to Angelina Jolie and Pierre Trudeau

Instructions on how to read this chart are provided in previous post.

All this is just provided for “fun”. If there are any errors … oops! You can let me know of any alternative points of view, and we can work together to resolve any information.

The Early Establishment of Montreal Loiselle Pioneer Family, By Aurora Loiselle

July 9, 2013

On Jun 29, 2013, descendants of Louis Loisel met up in Montreal. Aurora Losielle started off the day’s events with a presentation on the early history of Loisel’s in Montreal. Her speech is provided here.

The Early Establishment of Montreal Loiselle Pioneer Family

Prepared and Presented by Aurora Loiselle

With extracts from the section on the Loiselles of the book by  Fr. DeJordy  “Genealogies des Principales Familles du Richelieu”, Vol II, 1927

The purpose of this introduction is to situate our families who descend from our one common ancestor, Louis Loiselle,  in the history of  the founding of Montreal, where we are meeting today, 29 of June 2013  (the feasts of Saint Pierre and Saint Paul in the Catholic world).

This reunion, will allow us to experience live our family history linked to Montreal’s beginnings, today, through our visit and presentations in both the Notre Dame Basilica and the Marguerite Bourgeoys Museum and during our supper with New France themed show.  There are no sufficient words  to say how special this event is since we are all from elsewhere; our family is so old  in this country, many left  for different reasons and today we are trying to connect with our common roots. We have with us Loiselles from Rhode Island, Ontario, Saskatchewan and from Santiago, Chile (my family), Sinotte’s from different parts in Canada. All descendants from Louis Loiselle and Marguerite Charlot, one of the first 50 French families who settle in Ville Marie in the 1600’s, today’s Montreal.

Fr. De Jordy published in 1927, the book “Genealogy of the Principal Families of the Richelieu” and I will now refer to what he wrote, then, in his introduction to the chapter on our Loisel ancestor because it gives us a glimpse of this family in its historical context.  So, he writes:

“Among the families of the Richelieu  of normand origins and whose ancestors  came to establish themselves in Ville Marie while Paul de Maisonneuve still lived and before the arrival of the recruits of 1653, there are no more respectable and older than the Loiselles, the Hebert, the Demers and the Messier.

Louis Loiselle, the founder of the family of this name lived in the Island of Montreal and had reached the age of 30 when he married on the 13 of January of 1648, Marguerite Charlot, originally from St. Jean de Gres, near Paris.  She was a virtuous girl who accompanied Mlle. Jeanne Mance to Ville Marie and who had lived under her care until the day of her marriage.  http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/women/030001-1410-e.html

“”It was Mr. de la Vallee Poussin, eminent conferencier in Paris, who raised his voice one more time to denounce a slander that found some credit in some circles. It was Baron de La Hontan, an aristocrat but one who liked fights, who threw injury to our first French colonists.   There was no proof found that Canada was first settled by delinquents and women of bad life.   To the contrary, with the arrival of the Regiment de Carignan, many of them were the best soldiers of regiments in the mother country.  The women who were recruited to come to New France to marry were young women of Parisian orphanages, young peasants of normand parishes chosen by their priests among the healthiest, strong and virtuous.   They were brought by religious or lay women of faith, were given  money by the King and were married shortly after arrival”.   These are called  the Daughters of the King.  A parenthesis:  the first Daughters of the King (Les Filles du Roi) arrived in 1663 and this year, 2013,  marks the 350 th anniversary of their  arrival.  There are various commemorations around Quebec to celebrate who are known as “the first Mothers of French Canadians.”

Another excerpt from the same book: “According to Mr. James Douglas, published in the bulletins of the history courses at Queen’s University, a reputable work on the situation of women in New England and in New France, a comparative work where he researches the role that women played in both colonies.  He says the inhabitants of New England arrived with their spouses and children and the majority in New France arrived alone. It was necessary that the religious authorities concern themselves on bringing in young women of age to marry and establish families in the new colony.”

We should underline here, that the first girl born and who survived in Montreal beyond the crib stage and  who   married here, is our Jeanne Loiselle, that she was not part of the Daughters of the King group, she was born in 1649, married Jean Beauchamp in 1666, a Frenchman, they had eight children and she lived until  59 years of age.   At the time, there was Mlle.   Jeanne Mance, who played the role of nurse in the colony and who found Hotel –Dieu of Montreal, the first hospital.  She was of great influence in Ville Marie during the first years of the colony and is often referred to as the co-founder of Montreal.  After, it was Marguerite Bourgeoys, another key figure, the founder of the Notre Dame Congregation and who dedicated herself to teaching and grooming the first children of the colonists, of which Jeanne and her sister Francoise.  Marguerite Bourgeoys was made a Canadian Saint in 1982, she is the first Canadian Saint. http://www.marguerite-bourgeoys.com/en/chapel/marguerite-Bourgeoys.asp

From the same book:  “While these women worked for the betterment of New France, there were no equivalents in New England, no women who occupied themselves actively in the public welfare .  The religious authorities of that period, according to Winthrop, prohibited women to gather each week to even discuss doctrinal questions and the Holy Bible.”  In New England the puritan spirit dominated.

“As Mr. Douglas remarked, the concept of the role of women in the life of the original American colonies, was different;  it is with no doubt that New France benefitted more from the influence of some women of courage who devoted themselves to the colony, than in New England, where women were left at home by “exaggerated  religious doctrine beliefs”, and had practically no role in the public welfare of the colony.”

From the preface:  “Lodge, the American Senator during the heavy French Canadian immigration to the USA, in his speech on Immigration, said “these Immigrants represent one of the oldest establishments on the continent, they are now Americans in the large sense of the word.  It is then acknowledged that the French-Canadian immigrants in New England had reached a population of 750,000, that  in at  least 13 of their towns, the Canadians and their descendants were over 10,000. One of these towns, Fall River with its 35.000 Franco-Americans came in third place after Montreal and Quebec, as center of French population. They find Franco-Americans in all legislative bodies of New England. The first Rhode   Island citizen to have received the honor of five successive elections to the post of Governor (in 1912) crossed the border at the age of 16.”

Back to our pioneer, excerpt from the book:

“The Montreal “high society” of the period, had great estimation for the Loiselle couple;  thus, the 26 of February of 1652, mayor Lambert Closse and Francoise Code had little  Francoise in their arms in the baptismal fountain http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/closse_raphael_lambert_1E.html ; when son Joseph Loiselle was born the 26 of November of 1654,  Paul de Maisonneuve and Jeanne Mance, founders of Montreal, served as godfather and godmother.”  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_de_Chomedey,_Sieur_de_Maisonneuve

The oldest of Louis Loiselle  children, “ Jeanne,  born the 21st of July, 1649, was the 1st girl of the colony to survive;  eight years had passed without being able to  keep children alive in Montreal.   Jeanne just turned age 4 and a half when Sister Bourgeoys arrived from France and took charge of her instruction and grooming until marriage.  Jeanne and her sister Francoise were among the first students of Marguerite Bourgeoys.  Jeanne is still the first Canadian in Montreal who married there.  The marriage was celebrated the 23rd of November of 1666 at the Notre Dame parish in Ville Marie.”

Extracts from  “Nos ancetres # 18”  Biographies des ancetres,  St. Anne de Beaupre 1990

“It is written in a few records of history, that Louis Loiselle appeared in Montreal without a word.  The first time they noticed him, he was getting married in the parish of Notre Dame in 1648.  Present in the ceremony were:  Paul de Maisonneuve, governor of the island, Gilbert Barbier and Charles Le Moyne.

Monsieur Paul de Chomedey Maisonneuve helps Louis Loisel to establish himself with dignity and gives him 1 000 pounds, an exceptional gratification. That is why there are questions, if M. de Chomeday had a special friendship with the Loiselle couple,  both Louis and Marguerite Charlot may have traveled with the governor in his return to the colony the summer of 1647”.  Major Lambert Closse also arrived in 1647 and may have traveled with Louis Loiselle, he was chosen as the godfather of Louis’ second daughter, Francoise.

“On 1667, the censors noted the that the urban neighbors of Louis Loiselle were Charles Dailleboust and Louis Artus, royal Juge.

People in Ville Marie helped each other. After 12 years Louis felt more at ease financially;

The 20th of March of 1661, he sold cattle to Robert Cavelier dit Deslauriers.  Money, nothing.

The buyer gave him eight days of labour with cattle in addition to 40 cords of wood for heating delivered to his home. But sometimes people picked on each other. Thus, on the 20th of December 1662, a dozen of colonists were witness of an altercation during which the mason Urbain Brassard directed publicly horrible insults to locksmith Louis Loisel.  He treated him as “Canard” or cocu.  Next January, the tribunal ordered the said Brassard to draft in the presence of the notary an official reparation within 24 hours and to give 10 pounds to the church.

Ville Marie, lived in 1663 under the threat of the Iroquois.  Monsieur de Maisonneuve organized the Milice de la Saint Famille.  It had to do guard duties day and night.  It was structured into 20 squads of 7 defending men each, or 140 men. Louis Loisel formed part of the 17th with Nicolas Hubert as corporal.

Louis got in trouble with his neighbors’, moving the land limits to his advantage.  In 1680, Langevin, his neighour, was again complaining through the notary.  This time our ancestor Loisel was cutting wood in his neighbors’ property according to his own land measurements.  He was forced to pay for damages. After three centuries, one cannot exaggerate the importance of these various facts that put some spice in the life of the first colonists.  In 1682, Paul Aguenier was condemned to pay damages that his animals has caused to Louis Loisel’s grains”.

Generation Charlot-Loisel:

The generosities of life offered 8 children to the Charlot-Loisel couple:  Jeanne, Francoise, Joseph, Charles, Marie-Marthe, Charles, Barbe and Louis.  Marie-Marthe, the two Charles and Louis died just a month after birth.  The 7th of April of 1682 Joseph married Jeanne Langlois, daughter of Honore and Marie Pontonnier.  He had  bought property from Francois Beau in Pointe aux Trembles.  With his 13 children, Joseph was the only one capable of transmitting to the descendants of le patronyme Loiselle.  He died in Pointe aux Trembles on June of 1724.

But we cannot finish this synthesis of the settlement of our pioneer Loiselle in Ville Marie without mentioning that Louis  and his family lived there during one of the worst periods of survival of New France under the constant attacks from the Iroquois against the French, the very reason why the Regiment de Carignan was sent to New France to try to avoid the total collapse of the colonial settlement. The very year Jeanne Loiselle was born, there was a Huron massacre at the hands of the Iroquois and in 1650 the martyrdom of Fathers Jean de Brebeuf and Lalemant . Major Lambert Closse, was only one of the several victims of Iroquois attacks.

“To save Ville Marie was to save New France” (from Marraine Mance booklet, Beauchemin 1962) .

How We are all Connected!

July 9, 2013

We had a meeting of Louis Loisel descendants in Montreal on Jun 29, 2013. Here is a photo of some the Louis Loisel descendants that participated in the events of the day.

                                                                     Sinotte Loiselle group
Photo provided by Aurora Loiselle.  The photo was taken in the Chapelle Bonsecours. In the photo are (from left to right): Our “coureur de bois” guide, Fern Sinotte and Glenda Harris, Aurora Loiselle, Tom his son Chris Loiselle, Henri Loiselle, Andree Sinotte, Karen Sinotte, Mona Sinotte, Raymonde Sinotte and her beau Norman.  Featuring the Banner that Aurora Loiselle created for our first meetnng of the Sinotte Loiselle Family  Association.  Missing from the photo are Paula, Bruce, Marcelo who were taking photos!

The descendants of Louis Loisel came from far and wide, including: Rhode Island, Saskachewan, Ontario and Quebec, including one from Chile, who now lives in Canada.

The following relationships were noted amongst the meeting participants:

  • Fern, Andree and Ray were the closest relationships … they are siblings.
  • Fern/Ray/Andree and Mona are third cousins.
  • Aurora and Fern are 5th cousins 2x removed
  • The most distant relationship in the group was Colin who is 8th cousin to most everyone in at the gathering, some one or two generations removed.
  • The “youngest”  generation at the Sinotte Loiselle Family gathering would have been Karen, Colin and Chris (they were  all generation 12)
  • The “oldest” generation in the room was represented by Aurora (she is generation 10)

Click on the tree here to see the chart that shows how all the people attending the meeting are related [Bill Loiselle, Jack Wisell, Maurice Loiselle couldn't come to the Montreal but we added them to the family tree here].

Montreal Meeting How we are all related Jun 29 2013

Loisel History for Meeting in Montreal Jun 29 2013 How we are related Chart

Everyone at the Sinotte Loiselle family gathering shared the first three generations on the chart.

How to read the Family Tree Chart:

  • The “couples” highlighted in Red Boxes on the Tree Chart shown here are common ancestors.
  • The Red Numbers on the left of the chart, show the generations. I showed Louis Loyzel and Jeanne LeTerrier from France as “0” and started counting with Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot, as the first generation in Canada.
  • All the relationships are shown relative to Karen Sinotte

Here is the example for how Tom Loiselle and Karen Sinotte are related.

Tom’s “branch” is the 3th column from the right, Karen’s “branch” is the second column from the right.
This shows that Tom is the 11th generation descendant of Louis Loisel m. Marguerite Charlot. Karen is the  12th generation of Louis Loisel. The red bubble numbers at the left of the page give a count of the generations in Canada,  starting with generation 1 being Louis Loisel m Marguerite Charlot.
Karen and Tom share common ancestors at Toussaint Loiselle m Marie Anne Hogue which at the 4th generation descendant of Louis Loisel. These are the “grandparents” that  Tom and Karen share in common, the next generation (5th generation) are “uncles” and then the generation, the generation  after that (6th generation) are first cousins. There are six generations between Tom and these “first cousins”. There is one generation that separates Karen and Tom. That makes Karen and Tom 6th cousins 1x removed.
All the attendees at the meeting can do the same exercise to “calculate” how you are related to anyone on this chart … and for any other Louis Loisel desscendants that weren’t able to attend our gathering, you can add your “branch” to the tree and calculate how you are related!

Our Roots in France

July 2, 2013

Louis Loysel and Jeanne LeTerrier were the parents of Louis Loisel that came to Canada in 1647. 

The Loisel coat of arms was researched by Tom Loiselle.  The origines of the name Loisel is reported to be an archaic form of the word “oiseau” or “la legerete”.  The symbols on the coat of arms include: a helmet, two birds, a gold chevron and a greyhound. 

Loiselle Coat of Arms from Tom Loiselle.jpg

 

Louis Loisel/Loysel was born 1590 in St. Germain de la Blanche Herbe, pres de Caan, Bayeux, Normandie, France, and died Bet. 1624 and 1684 in St. Germain-de-la-Blanche-Herbe, Normandy, France. He married Jeanne LeTerrier 1616 in St. Germain-de-la-Blanche-Herbe, Normandy, France.

A description of the town:

Saint-Germain-la-Blanche-Herbe, is a Normand community which  is located today on the outskirts of the city of Caen, in the department of Calvados, along the national highway leading to Bayeux. In the last century, Saint-Germain-la-Blanche-Herbe sheltered a population of 177 residents some of whom were occupied in extracting stone from a local quarry. In this territory, Henry V of England built a leper asylum. Today, a cultured visitor will admire the ruins of the abbey of Ardenne, its monumental doors and the impressive remains of its arched hall. Bishop Richard de Bayeux, consecrated this monastery of the Premontres in the year of 1138.

Louis Loisel was the Chatelain for Chateau Courselle Sur Mer.  Courselle Sur Mer is near Caen’s on the Normandy coast of France.

Courselle sur Mer on Normandy Coast

Here is a photo of the Chateau. [see also Chateau de Courseulle sur Mer ]

Chateau de Couselles sur mer

Jeanne LeTerrier was born 1590 in France, and died 21 Jun 1624 in St Germain Courseulles-sur-Mer (Calvados), France . She was buried 22 Jun 1624, St Germain Courseulles-sur-Mer (Calvados), France

Louis Loysel and Jeanne LeTerrier had three children:

i. Philippe Loiselle, b. 1617, France. Baptism: 02 Apr 1617, St Germain Courseulles-sur-Mer Normandie (Calvados), France (parrain: Philippe Quertiers, avocat en vicomte a Caen; marrain: Damoiselle Anne Le Sens )

ii. Louis Loisel/Loysel , b. 02 Jun 1618, Saint-Germain-la-Blance-Herbe, de Caen (Bayeux), Normandie, m. Marie-Marguerite Charlot, 13 Jan 1647/48, Montreal, QC (Notre Dame) b. 1612, Saint-Jean-en-Greve, Paris, France. He was baptised on: 02 Jun 1618, Courseulles-sur-Mer (St-Germain) (Calvados : 14191) (Source: Roland-Yves Gagn̩, MSGCF, vol. 50, p. 43 РDGFQ, p. 740 Notes: Catholique. Son pere est procureur au chateau de Courseulle-sur-Mer.) and Burial: 04 Sep 1691, Montreal, QC.

iii. Marie-Madeleine Loiselle, b. 1619, France. Baptism: 04 Dec 1619, St Germain Courseulles-sur-Mer Normandie (Calvados), France ( parrain:  Noble Homme Charles Le Sens; marrain: Damoiselle Marie Madeleine Tirel)

It was their second son, Louis Loisel that decided to come to Canada in 1647. He did not know how to write, but could scribble his mark at the bottom of a sheet of paper.  But he obviously had spirit, heart and courage.  And came to Canada as a skilled locksmith. There is no record of any continued communication between Louis Loisel the Canadian immigrant and his family back in France.

Shortly after his arrival, he married Marguerite Charlot … and started the Canadian family tree.

[ I have to thank people like Terry, Larry, Tom and the late, Otto Palfenier, that have provided me with information about this couple from their lives in France. And this shows the possibility of relatives in France!]

Loiselle Sinotte and Wisell too Family Gathering in Montreal Jun 29 2013

May 18, 2013

Descendants of Louis Loisel from 13 generations later are meeting up to share our connections to our roots in Montreal … back to where our family tree started in Canada. We are meeting up in Old Montreal on Jun 29, 2013.

RSVP’s were due by May 31, 2013 … but if you are still interested in coming you are still welcome.

Optional Friday Road Trip to Pointe aux Trembles (PAT)

For those that are in town on Friday, we are planning a road trip to Pointe aux Trembles (PAT). RSVP by email so that we can coordinate car pooling. Departure time from Montreal by 2:30 pm. Arrive in PAT by 3:00pm. Touring for a few hours and return to Montreal by 7:00pm. The PAT visit may include ancestral homes of some of our Loisel ancestors. These patrimonial homes that have been preserved and documented by the Atelier d’histoire.

  • Maison Beaudry, 14678 rue Notre Dame Est.  Today it’s a cultural centre. [Toussaint Beaudry married to Barbe Barbier, daughter of Gilbert Barbier and his daughter Marguerite Beaudry married Joseph Loiselle and Jean-Baptiste Loiselle son of Joseph Loisel and Jeanne Langlois married Marie-Anne Beaudry, Toussaint Beaudry's granddaughter ]
  • Maison Louis Beaudry,  4, 43e Avenue [son of Toussaint Beaudry]
  • Maison Pascal Beauchamp, 14490, rue Notre Dame Est [Pascal Beauchamp married Marie Loiselle daughter of Joseph Loiselle and Marguerite Beaudry, Pascal is descendant of Jean Beauchamp and Jeanne Loisel]
  • Maison Pierre Beauchamp, 10, 64e Avenue [Father or brother of Pascal Beauchamp, which we can confirm on the trip!]
  • Maison Langlois,  24, 58e Avenue
  • Francois-Bau House [Louis Loiselle bought his land in PAT from Francois]

On Saturday, Jun 29, the agenda is as follows: 

We start   the day off at 9:00 am ❹  Chateau Ramezay (280 Rue Notre   Dame E at St Paul St E).  We will see ❺ Hotel de Ville (275 Rue   Notre-Dame E).  The Agenda for the morning included:

  • Introductions.
  • Aurora will make a presentation about the early generations of Loiselle’s in Canada.
  • Karen will lead a group discussion of 13 generations of Loiselle’s across North America.
  • We hope that all participants will bring memoriabilia from their family branch to share.
  • Group Photo with all attendees and our first meeting of the Sinotte/Loiselle Family Association with a banner of the Loiselle family crest (thanks to the research done by Tom Loiselle).

After we   meet up there and get organized, then we walk along Notre Dame to past the ❼ old courthouse and ⑨Place d’Armes to ⑩ Notre-Dame Basilca (110 Rue   Notre-Dame).  We need to be there by 11:30 am.  In the square, we will   see a statue of Paul De Chomedy, sieur de Maisonneuve who is founder of   Montreal, witness to the marriage of Louis Loisel and Marguerite Charlot and godfather to their son Joseph Loisel.

After our tour of the Basilica, its LUNCH at Serafim restaurant (Greek restaurant that serves organic food) on rue St Paul, a short walk back across Notre Dame.  [Aurore is taking advanced orders so that we aren't rushed during lunch].

Then after lunch, it is across the street on St-Paul St E for our tour at 3 pm at the Marguerite Bourgeouys Museum (400 St Paul St   E) which is just up the street from  ①Marche Bonsecours (350 Rue St   Paul E).  The narrow, cobblestone Rue St.-Paul E. is the oldest street in   Montreal.

Dinner and evening entertainment has been confirmed for:

Le Festin du Gouverneur Show at Restaurant Fourquet Fourchette (265, St-Antoine West, Convention Centre Old Montreal)
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We will enjoy a great historical banquet with New French Style food while enjoying a fun and interactive show with French Canadian and Irish traditional songs, light operatic and old musical   extracts. The professional artists are dressed in the 17th century style with visits from Paul de Maisonneuve, Marguerite Bourgeoys and Jean Mance!

Regular menu (Four courses meal):

  • Mixed greens
  • Harvest soup
  • 3 choices of main course : Penne Primavera or Chicken with apple sauce or Fish of the day
  • « Pudding Chômeur » (Quebec maple syrup cake), coffee or tea or herbal tea

       Old Montreal Tour Map

Map was excepted from : http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/city-guides/montreal-walking-tour-2/

Details of our agenda are provided here. Sinotte Loiselle reunion 2013 Itinerary Highlights Jun 29 2013 in Montreal

We look forward to seeing everyone there …. Karen Sinotte and Aurora Loiselle

Generation 8: Jeremie Sinotte m. Marie Rainville 1842 in Marieville

January 9, 2013

Jeremie Sinotte is son of Toussaint Loiselle-Sinotte and Apolline Letourneau. He is 7th generation descendant of the first Loiselle in Canada.  Jeremie Sinotte married Marie Rainville in Marieville, QC. Some of their children were born there, and some were born in Stanstead, Quebec and then later in Coaticook, Quebec.  Many of his children emigrated to the Unites States.  Based on the research to date, it seems that Jeremie went primarily by the Sinotte surname – dropping the “Loiselle dit”. Jeremie’s  descendants became known by the surnames Sinotte, Sennott and deLoiselle.

Joseph Sinotte/SENNOTT, the oldest son, emigrated to Newport NH area and his descendants became known as Sennotts’s. Younger siblings Martin and Timothy are seen in Newport in 1880 Census and Timothy later moved to Concord NH.

Leander settled in Duluth, MN and invested in a dairy business. He didn’t have any children and there is no indication of other siblings or family going to that area … although at one time I thought I found a Felix Sinotte in the area that might have been related.

Ezra ended up in New York City in business and his descendants became known as deLoiselle.

Still looking for more descendants of Jeremie Sinotte and Marie Rainville … this what we have so far.

JEREMIE (FRANCIS-JEREMIE)8 SINOTTE (Toussaint7 Loiselle-, Pierre-Toussaint6 Loiselle, Toussaint5 Loiselle, Jean-Baptiste4 Loiselle, Joseph3 Loiselle, Louis2 Loisel\Loysel, Louis1 Loisel\Loysel) was born on 05 Oct 1822 in Marieville, Rouville, Quebec, Canada. He died after 1881 in Coaticook, Coaticook, Quebec, Canada. He married Marie Rainville (daughter of Denis Rainville and Josephte Patenaude) on 18 Oct 1842 in Marieville, QC (Saint-Marie-of-Monnoir). She was born in 1829 in Quebec, Canada. She died after 1881 in Coaticook, Coaticook, Quebec, Canada.

Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville had the following children:

  1. JOSEPH9 SINOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 15 Dec 1844 in Marieville, Rouville, Quebec, Canada. He died on 30 Nov 1908 in Newport, Sullivan, New Hampshire, USA. He married (1) ROSALIND RINGAULD-CANARD on 28 Nov 1863 in New Hampshire, USA. She was born on 24 May 1841 in New Hampshire, USA. She died on 24 Feb 1877 in Newport, Sullivan, New Hampshire, USA. They had 7 children, and the children became known by surname Sennott. He married (2) ROSE E DINSMORE between 1875-1880. She was born in Sep 1852 in New Hampshire, USA. She died after 1900 in Newport, Newport, Rhode Island, USA. Joseph and Rose had two or three children (two if Ezra and Arthur turn out to be the same persons).
  2. FELIX LOISELLE-SINOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 05 Sep 1845 in Marieville, Rouville, Quebec, Canada.
  3. MARIE LOISELLE-SINOTTE (daughter of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 20 May 1847 in Marieville, Rouville, Quebec, Canada.
  4. LEANDER SINOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 31 Mar 1850 in Stukely, QC. He died on 20 Sep 1924 in Duluth, Saint Louis, MN. He married Belle F Reneau on Jul 6, 1881 in Duluth, Saint Louis, MN. She was born in Oct 1859 in Canada. She died on 08 May 1944 in Duluth, Saint Louis, MN.
  5. MARTIN SINNOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born in 1851 in Quebec, Canada. He died after 1880 in Newport, Sullivan, New Hampshire, USA. He married MARTHA. She was born in 1857 in New Hampshire, USA. She died after 1880 in New Hampshire, USA
  6. APPOLINE LOISELLE-SINOTTE (daughter of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 06 Feb 1853 in Stanstead, Memphrémagog, Quebec, Canada (Stanstead, Stanstead, QC).
  7. JOSEPH LOISELLE-SINOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born on 31 Dec 1853 in Marieville, Rouville, Quebec, Canada.
  8. JOSEPHINE SINOTTE (daughter of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born in 1857. She died after 1881 in Coaticook, Coaticook, Quebec, Canada.
  9. TIMOTHY SINOTTE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born about 1857 in Quebec, Canada. He died between 1874-1897 in Concord, Merrimack, NH. He married Mary Ann Antoinet Chaplain (daughter of Alpheus Washington Chaplain and Sarah Reynolds) on 12 Nov 1874 in Coaticook, Stanstead, QC (St. Edmond). She was born on 28 Jun 1857. She died after 1897 in MA.
  10. EZRA S SINOTTE DELOISELLE (son of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born in 1858 in Quebec, Canada. He died between 1893-1900 in < NY >. He married Minnie Cornell (daughter of William Wesley Cornell and Sarah Hendrix Lyon) before 1882 in New York, USA. She was born in Aug 1867 in NY. She died between 1920-1942 in Brooklyn, NY.
  11. LIZZIE SINOTTE (daughter of Jeremie (Francis-Jeremie) Sinotte and Marie Rainville) was born in 1860 in < QC >. She died after 1881 in Coaticook, Coaticook, Quebec, Canada.

Look forward to hearing from new cousins out there.

Karen


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